{"id":22778,"date":"2022-03-01T15:19:38","date_gmt":"2022-03-01T21:19:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/apologeticspress.org\/?p=22778"},"modified":"2023-11-01T08:35:50","modified_gmt":"2023-11-01T13:35:50","slug":"qa-number-endings-in-genesis-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/apologeticspress.org\/qa-number-endings-in-genesis-5\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A: Number Endings in Genesis 5"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Q:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p> \u201cWhen I read Genesis 5, the numbers appear mythical. I don\u2019t mean in length, but the actual, statistical likelihood that there are ten zeros in the list and many fives. In fact, almost everything follows a zero. Adam lived 800 years after his son. Noah had his children at 500 years old, and the flood started when Noah was 600 years old, and he lived 350 years after the flood. Enoch was taken after 300 years. There is no deviation or variation. It\u2019s like the author was either unable to do math, or made it too simple, or was just making it up\u2014thus all the zeros. Can you help with this issue?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A:<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Normally, when people ask questions about the numbers in Genesis 5, the discussion centers on the long lifespans of the patriarchs (e.g., \u201cHow could Methuselah live to be 969 years old?\u201d). This question, however, considers the likelihood of so many of the patriarchs\u2019 lifespans, as well as their ages when they had sons, ending in 0 or 5. Are Moses\u2019 numbers made up?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>First, keep in mind that simply because something may initially seem improbable does not necessarily make it impossible or incorrect. Many Bible questions are more clearly answered once we delve more deeply into the biblical, historical, and cultural context. For example, in the first century, any part of a day could be computed for the whole day and the night following it. The Bible writers could truthfully equate \u201con the third,\u201d \u201cafter three days,\u201d and \u201cthree days and three nights\u201d (even though such language may initially sound contradictory to us).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Second, there actually <strong>is<\/strong> some variation from \u201c0\u201d and \u201c5\u201d endings in Genesis 5. The lifespans of four of the ten patriarchs end in numbers <strong>other than <\/strong>0 and 5. Seth died at 912, Jared at 962, Methuselah at 969, and Lamech at 777 (Genesis 5:8,20,27,31). Furthermore, the ages at which Jared, Methuselah, and Lamech had sons ended with numbers <strong>other than<\/strong> 0 and 5 (Genesis 5:18,25,28). A person may question the <strong>amount<\/strong> of variation within Genesis 5, but there <strong>is<\/strong> variation. What\u2019s more, there is even more variation of numbers in Genesis 11 in the list of 10 Messianic ancestors between Noah\u2019s son, Shem, and Abram (11:10-32).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Third, there obviously was <strong>some<\/strong> rounding of numbers up or down. Since there were no days, weeks, or months mentioned in Genesis 5, the numbers clearly include a rounding to the nearest year. Do we not often truthfully and acceptably round up or down all sorts of numbers? When someone asks (at 10:59), \u201cWhat\u2019s the time?\u201d is it wrong to say it\u2019s 11:00? Is it dishonest to say, \u201cWe just drove 800 miles,\u201d when we actually drove 789 miles? Is it a lie to say a car costs $10,000 when it really costs $9,999? God neither lies nor approves of lying (Titus 1:2; Ephesians 5:25); however, rounding numbers (when no deceit is intended) is acceptable and often customary. In fact, the person who says, \u201cI\u2019m 22 years, 11 months, 28 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 22 seconds old,\u201d rather than simply saying \u201c22\u201d or \u201c23,\u201d is being excessively specific (and annoying). The rounding of numbers is often a welcomed relief.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finally, even if all 10 patriarchs mentioned in Genesis 5 did have children or pass away at an age that ended in a 5 or 0 (which was not the case), such ages would not make the numbers wrong. They might seem statistically unlikely, but how many times in human history has something happened that seemed statistically unlikely? Has someone ever rolled a pair of dice 10 times and 10 times in a row got a total of 5 or 10? Probably. How many times could someone roll a pair of dice and&nbsp;not&nbsp;get combinations that equal seven? In 2009, a woman did this <strong>157 times in a row<\/strong>, which reportedly is a 1 in 1.56 trillion chance. Yet, it happened.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Though the numbers in Genesis 5 may <strong>seem<\/strong> unusual at first glance, a more thorough consideration helps to clarify the matter. In truth, the number-endings are neither impossible nor unlikely.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Endnotes<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>1 <\/sup>See Eric Lyons (2004), \u201cDid Jesus Rise \u2018On\u201d or \u2018After\u2019 the Third Day?\u201d Apologetics Press, https:\/\/apologeticspress.org\/did-jesus-rise-on-or-after-the-third-day-756\/.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>2 <\/sup>And is technically <strong>still rounding<\/strong> to the nearest second (and not tenth of a second or hundredth of a second, etc.).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>3 <\/sup>Claire Suddath (2009), \u201cHoly Craps! How a Gambling Grandma Broke the Record,\u201d <em>TIME<\/em>, May 29, http:\/\/content.time.com\/time\/nation\/article\/0,8599,1901663,00.html.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>4 <\/sup>Ibid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><sup>5 <\/sup>For questions pertaining to some of the different numbers given in the Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch, see the excellent article by Dr. Justin Rogers (2020), \u201cCan I Trust the Numbers in Genesis 5?\u201d, Apologetics Press, https:\/\/apologeticspress.org\/can-i-trust-the-numbers-in-genesis-5-5849\/.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Q: \u201cWhen I read Genesis 5, the numbers appear mythical. I don\u2019t mean in length, but the actual, statistical likelihood that there are ten zeros in the list and many fives. In fact, almost everything follows a zero. Adam lived 800 years after his son. 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